MC Yearly Consensus - 1938 - match-cut.org Forums

Kurosawa Fan · 04-08-2008, 04:18 PM

Submit your five favorite films from this year and in a week I will give you a top ten. IMDb dates will be used.

The point system is as follows

1st Place-5 points
2nd Place-4 points
3rd Place-3.5 points
4th Place-3 points
5th Place-2.5 points

There will be no restrictions on short films. A minimum of three films must be listed. You may edit your post freely up until the time that the thread is locked, which will be in about a week. I will give at least 24 hours warning before tallying votes.

You may begin now.

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Spinal · 04-08-2008, 04:22 PM

New Ballot:

1. Bringing Up Baby
2. The Lady Vanishes
3. Porky in Wackyland
4. The Adventures of Robin Hood

Old Ballot:

Spoiler

Raiders · 04-08-2008, 04:25 PM

1. Angels With Dirty Faces
2. La bete humaine
3. Pygmalion
4. The Lady Vanishes
5. Bringing Up Baby

Qrazy · 04-08-2008, 04:55 PM

Is there a MC yearly concensus hybrid list? How many years do we have left?

Great year for Curtiz.

1. Angels with Dirty Faces
2. The Adventures of Robin Hood
3. Port of Shadows
4. You Can't Take it with You
5. Bringing up Baby

Spinal · 04-08-2008, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qrazy

Is there a MC yearly concensus hybrid list?

If you click the link in my signature, you can see what we've done so far. I'm not sure what you mean by hybrid.

dreamdead · 04-08-2008, 05:12 PM

1. Angels With Dirty Faces (Michael Curtiz)
2. Holiday (George Cukor)
3. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock)

I should get on Renoir's film sometime.

Kurosawa Fan · 04-08-2008, 05:19 PM

Netflix is shipping Angels With Dirty Faces today, so I'll post my list after I watch that this week.

Russ · 04-08-2008, 05:21 PM

1. Porky in Wackyland
2. Angels with Dirty Faces
3. The Adventures of Robin Hood
4. Bringing Up Baby
5. Boys Town

Qrazy · 04-08-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamdead

1. Angels With Dirty Faces (Michael Curtiz)
2. Holiday (George Cukor)
3. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock)

I should get on Renoir's film sometime.

It's not very good unfortunately, formally excellent, particularly the opening, but then it's all down hill... the drama is flat as can be and the execution of the storyline is just awful. It's really too bad since it's relatively visually enticing and has all of Renoir's usual formal precision.

Qrazy · 04-08-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spinal

If you click the link in my signature, you can see what we've done so far. I'm not sure what you mean by hybrid.

Nice, thanks... these things always tend to be only one click away (/oblivious).

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Yxklyx · 04-08-2008, 05:34 PM

1. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock)
2. La Bête humaine (Jean Renoir)
3. The Adventures of Robin Hood (Michael Curtiz & William Keighley)
4. Pygmalion (Anthony Asquith & Leslie Howard)
5. Holiday (George Cukor)

6. Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks)
7. Jezebel (William Wyler)
8. Port of Shadows (Marcel Carné)
9. The Dawn Patrol (Edmund Goulding)
10. The Childhood of Maxim Gorky (Mark Donskoy)

Kurious Jorge v3.1 · 04-08-2008, 05:35 PM

1. Port of Shadows
2. Pygmalion
3. The Lady Vanishes
4. Volga Volga
5. Alexander Nevsky

soitgoes... · 04-08-2008, 07:43 PM

1. La Bête humaine (Jean Renoir)
2. Pygmalion (Anthony Asquith, Leslie Howard)
3. Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks)
4. Port of Shadows (Marcel Carné)
5. Angels with Dirty Faces (Michael Curtiz)
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6. Porky in Wackyland (Robert Clampett)
7. Have You Got Any Castles? (Frank Tashlin)
8. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock)
9. The Adventures of Robin Hood (Michael Curtiz)

Not that it probably matters too much for this consensus, but I have Renoir's La Marseillaise. I'll see about watching itthis week.

Spinal · 04-08-2008, 07:53 PM

Top ten songs for 1938:

1) Fred Astaire, "Night and Day"
2) Ted Lewis, "In a Shanty Old Shanty Town"
3) Bing Crosby, "Please"
4) Leo Reisman, "Paradise"
5) Guy Lombardo, "We Just Can't Say Goodbye"
6) Paul Whiteman, "All of Me"
7) Rudy Vallee, "Brother Can You Spare a Dime?"
8) George Olsen, "Say it Isn't So"
9) George Olsen, "Lullaby of the Leaves"
10) Louis Armstrong, "All of Me"

source: goldenoldies-records.com

Sycophant · 04-08-2008, 07:56 PM

Two renditions of "All of Me"? Hot damn!

Spinal · 04-08-2008, 08:03 PM

Time Man of the Year for 1938:

Adolph Hitler

origami_mustache · 04-08-2008, 08:11 PM

1. Alexander Nevsky
2. Porky in Wackyland
3. Bringing up Baby
4 You Can't Take It with You
5. The Adventures of Robin Hood

Spinal · 04-09-2008, 12:09 AM

Edited to add the Porky short.

Russ · 04-09-2008, 12:34 AM

For those who haven't seen it, here's the Porky in Wackyland short.

Yxklyx · 04-09-2008, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ

For those who haven't seen it, here's the Porky in Wackyland short.

Rick Astley-Never Gonna Give You Up? Doesn't look like it was made in the 30s.

Russ · 04-09-2008, 12:43 AM

Yes, Rick was in his 30s when he made this.

Yxklyx · 04-09-2008, 12:53 AM

Wait, when was LSD invented?

Philosophe_rouge · 04-09-2008, 01:43 AM

One of my weakest years of the 30s. Need to see more

1. Le Quai Des Brumes
2. Holiday
3. Angels with dirty faces
4. The Adventures of Robin Hood
5. The Lady Vanishes

Eleven · 04-09-2008, 02:38 AM

1. La Bete Humaine
2. Holiday
3. Bringing Up Baby
4. Angels with Dirty Faces
5. Jezebel

HMs: Porky in Wackyland, Robin Hood, Lady Vanishes.

I've got Alexander Nevsky on hand, might watch it before this is over.

EDIT: Holiday was pretty awesome. Fuck you, rich people.

Isaac · 04-09-2008, 02:54 AM

1. Angels With Dirty Faces
2. Olympia
3. Port of Shadows
4. The Childhood of Maxim Gorky
5. Porky in Wackyland

Also, a shout out to Mickey's Trailer (and thank God even the mighty Michael Eisner can't stop YouTube).

Melville · 04-09-2008, 03:21 AM

1. The Lady Vanishes
2. La Bête humaine
3. Bringing Up Baby
4. Porky in Wackyland

Melville · 04-09-2008, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qrazy

It's not very good unfortunately, formally excellent, particularly the opening, but then it's all down hill... the drama is flat as can be and the execution of the storyline is just awful. It's really too bad since it's relatively visually enticing and has all of Renoir's usual formal precision.

I thought the execution of the story was excellent, except for the protagonist's psychology never being made believable. And the whole thing is formally magnificent.

Qrazy · 04-09-2008, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melville

I thought the execution of the story was excellent, except for the protagonist's psychology never being made believable. And the whole thing is formally magnificent.

Yeah change execution to 'the storyline is awful' primarily because of terribly executed dramatic beats. I wanted to give Zola the benefit of the doubt.

As time went on I cared less and less about any of the characters, their situation, what was happening, etc... perhaps the protag's underdeveoped psychology was largely the cause of this.

Boner M · 04-09-2008, 03:35 AM

1. La bete humaine
2. The Lady Vanishes
3. Angels With Dirty Faces
4. Bringing Up Baby

Melville · 04-09-2008, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qrazy

Yeah change execution to 'the storyline is awful' primarily because of terribly executed dramatic beats. I wanted to give Zola the benefit of the doubt.

Well, it's definitely a major failing of the film that the protagonist's "affliction" seems so arbitrary (or that the arbitrariness never seems meaningful or justified), so I do agree with your original statement to some degree. Other than that, what dramatic beats did you dislike?

04-08-2008, 04:18 PM	#1
Kurosawa Fan Moderator Rep Power: 16 Rep Points: 2892	MC Yearly Consensus - 1938 Submit your five favorite films from this year and in a week I will give you a top ten. IMDb dates will be used. The point system is as follows 1st Place-5 points 2nd Place-4 points 3rd Place-3.5 points 4th Place-3 points 5th Place-2.5 points There will be no restrictions on short films. A minimum of three films must be listed. You may edit your post freely up until the time that the thread is locked, which will be in about a week. I will give at least 24 hours warning before tallying votes. You may begin now. IMDB Power Search __________________ Films I've Seen: Inception (2010) - Despicable Me (2010)- 1/2 Zombieland (2009) - * The Crazies (2010) - * Land of the Lost (2009) - 1/2 MacGruber* (2010) - * Book I'm Reading:** A Game of Thrones - George R.R. Martin

04-08-2008, 04:22 PM	#2
Spinal Moderator Rep Power: 16 Rep Points: 2959	New Ballot: 1. Bringing Up Baby 2. The Lady Vanishes 3. Porky in Wackyland 4. The Adventures of Robin Hood Old Ballot: Spoiler 1. Bringing Up Baby 2. The Lady Vanishes 3. The Adventures of Robin Hood __________________ A Town Called Panic (Aubier/Patar, 2009) *1/2 You, the Living (Andersson, 2007) 1/2 Godzilla* (Honda, 1954) * Looney Tunes: Back in Action (Dante, 2003) 1/2 Inception (Nolan, 2010) ** Blue Beard (Breillat, 2009) * Despicable Me (Coffin/Renaud, 2010) The White Ribbon (Haneke, 2009) * The Stone Raft (Sluizer, 2002) How to Train Your Dragon (DeBlois/Sanders, 2010) 1/2 The Fly* (Neumann, 1958) **1/2 Last edited by Spinal : 04-09-2008 at 12:10 AM.*

04-08-2008, 04:25 PM	#3
Raiders Administrator Rep Power: 10 Rep Points: 1924	1. Angels With Dirty Faces 2. La bete humaine 3. Pygmalion 4. The Lady Vanishes 5. Bringing Up Baby __________________ Rice is great when you're hungry and you want 2,000 of something. Recently Viewed: The Kids Are All Right (2010) *****½ Inception (2010) (500) Days of Summer (2009) ½ Toy Story 3 (2010) ***½ Day & Night (s) (2010) ****** Films By Year The Fifth Dimension: A Chronological Twilight Zone (UPDATED 7/1/10)

04-08-2008, 04:55 PM	#4
Qrazy The Pan Rep Power: 13 Rep Points: 1744	Is there a MC yearly concensus hybrid list? How many years do we have left? Great year for Curtiz. 1. Angels with Dirty Faces 2. The Adventures of Robin Hood 3. Port of Shadows 4. You Can't Take it with You 5. Bringing up Baby __________________ Inception - A- Deewaar - D+ Meet me in St. Louis - C+ Dinner for Schmucks - C+ Gimme Shelter - B

04-08-2008, 05:12 PM	#6
dreamdead Screenwriter Rep Power: 5 Rep Points: 774	1. Angels With Dirty Faces (Michael Curtiz) 2. Holiday (George Cukor) 3. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock) I should get on Renoir's film sometime. __________________ The Long Goodbye - 8.5 Dirty Pretty Things - 7.5 Beloved - 6.5 Inception - 7

04-08-2008, 05:19 PM	#7
Kurosawa Fan Moderator Rep Power: 16 Rep Points: 2892	Netflix is shipping Angels With Dirty Faces today, so I'll post my list after I watch that this week. __________________ Films I've Seen: Inception (2010) - Despicable Me (2010)- 1/2 Zombieland (2009) - * The Crazies (2010) - * Land of the Lost (2009) - 1/2 MacGruber* (2010) - * Book I'm Reading:** A Game of Thrones - George R.R. Martin

04-08-2008, 05:21 PM	#8
Russ I believe in your victory Rep Power: 6 Rep Points: 863	1. Porky in Wackyland 2. Angels with Dirty Faces 3. The Adventures of Robin Hood 4. Bringing Up Baby 5. Boys Town

04-08-2008, 05:34 PM	#11
Yxklyx Editor Rep Power: 3 Rep Points: 177	1. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock) 2. La Bête humaine (Jean Renoir) 3. The Adventures of Robin Hood (Michael Curtiz & William Keighley) 4. Pygmalion (Anthony Asquith & Leslie Howard) 5. Holiday (George Cukor) 6. Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks) 7. Jezebel (William Wyler) 8. Port of Shadows (Marcel Carné) 9. The Dawn Patrol (Edmund Goulding) 10. The Childhood of Maxim Gorky (Mark Donskoy) __________________ Last Excellent Film Seen For The Very First Time: Captains Courageous (1937, Victor Fleming) My Movie Page

04-08-2008, 05:35 PM	#12
Kurious Jorge v3.1 Synegoggles! Rep Power: 3 Rep Points: 222	1. Port of Shadows 2. Pygmalion 3. The Lady Vanishes 4. Volga Volga 5. Alexander Nevsky __________________ Tokyo Sonata (Kurosawa - '08) 87 Culloden (Watkins - '64) 77 The Lost Weekend (Wilder - 1945) 81 Adieu Phillipine (Jacques Rozier - '63) 88 The Blue Bird (Tourneur - '19)90 Falstaff aka Chimes at Midnight (Welles - '65) 66 A Trip to Mars (Holger-Madsen - '18) 71 The War Game (Watkins - '66) 73 I Want to Go Home (Resnais -'89) 38 Life Is Sweet (Leigh - '91) 78 [/color] Last edited by Kurious Jorge v3.1 : 04-08-2008 at 05:40 PM.

04-08-2008, 07:43 PM	#13
soitgoes... King of the Impossible Rep Power: 6 Rep Points: 633	1. La Bête humaine (Jean Renoir) 2. Pygmalion (Anthony Asquith, Leslie Howard) 3. Bringing Up Baby (Howard Hawks) 4. Port of Shadows (Marcel Carné) 5. Angels with Dirty Faces (Michael Curtiz) -------------------------------------------------- 6. Porky in Wackyland (Robert Clampett) 7. Have You Got Any Castles? (Frank Tashlin) 8. The Lady Vanishes (Alfred Hitchcock) 9. The Adventures of Robin Hood (Michael Curtiz) Not that it probably matters too much for this consensus, but I have Renoir's La Marseillaise. I'll see about watching itthis week.

04-08-2008, 07:53 PM	#14
Spinal Moderator Rep Power: 16 Rep Points: 2959	Top ten songs for 1938: 1) Fred Astaire, "Night and Day" 2) Ted Lewis, "In a Shanty Old Shanty Town" 3) Bing Crosby, "Please" 4) Leo Reisman, "Paradise" 5) Guy Lombardo, "We Just Can't Say Goodbye" 6) Paul Whiteman, "All of Me" 7) Rudy Vallee, "Brother Can You Spare a Dime?" 8) George Olsen, "Say it Isn't So" 9) George Olsen, "Lullaby of the Leaves" 10) Louis Armstrong, "All of Me" source: goldenoldies-records.com __________________ A Town Called Panic (Aubier/Patar, 2009) *1/2 You, the Living (Andersson, 2007) 1/2 Godzilla* (Honda, 1954) * Looney Tunes: Back in Action (Dante, 2003) 1/2 Inception (Nolan, 2010) ** Blue Beard (Breillat, 2009) * Despicable Me (Coffin/Renaud, 2010) The White Ribbon (Haneke, 2009) * The Stone Raft (Sluizer, 2002) How to Train Your Dragon (DeBlois/Sanders, 2010) 1/2 The Fly* (Neumann, 1958) ***1/2

04-08-2008, 07:56 PM	#15
Sycophant Wisdom & lulz --> Rep Power: 14 Rep Points: 2422	Two renditions of "All of Me"? Hot damn! __________________ Do you care about life? Do you care about the future? Just saw: Suicide Club (interesting) \| The Tale of Zatoichi (pretty good!) \| Ponyo (again; beautiful) \| Airborne (1993: the movie)

04-08-2008, 08:03 PM	#16
Spinal Moderator Rep Power: 16 Rep Points: 2959	Time Man of the Year for 1938: Adolph Hitler __________________ A Town Called Panic (Aubier/Patar, 2009) *1/2 You, the Living (Andersson, 2007) 1/2 Godzilla* (Honda, 1954) * Looney Tunes: Back in Action (Dante, 2003) 1/2 Inception (Nolan, 2010) ** Blue Beard (Breillat, 2009) * Despicable Me (Coffin/Renaud, 2010) The White Ribbon (Haneke, 2009) * The Stone Raft (Sluizer, 2002) How to Train Your Dragon (DeBlois/Sanders, 2010) 1/2 The Fly* (Neumann, 1958) ***1/2

04-08-2008, 08:11 PM	#17
origami_mustache blurred and indistinct Rep Power: 5 Rep Points: 420	1. Alexander Nevsky 2. Porky in Wackyland 3. Bringing up Baby 4 You Can't Take It with You 5. The Adventures of Robin Hood __________________ The Auteurs branduponthebrain

04-09-2008, 12:09 AM	#18
Spinal Moderator Rep Power: 16 Rep Points: 2959	Edited to add the Porky short. __________________ A Town Called Panic (Aubier/Patar, 2009) *1/2 You, the Living (Andersson, 2007) 1/2 Godzilla* (Honda, 1954) * Looney Tunes: Back in Action (Dante, 2003) 1/2 Inception (Nolan, 2010) ** Blue Beard (Breillat, 2009) * Despicable Me (Coffin/Renaud, 2010) The White Ribbon (Haneke, 2009) * The Stone Raft (Sluizer, 2002) How to Train Your Dragon (DeBlois/Sanders, 2010) 1/2 The Fly* (Neumann, 1958) ***1/2

04-09-2008, 12:34 AM	#19
Russ I believe in your victory Rep Power: 6 Rep Points: 863	For those who haven't seen it, here's the Porky in Wackyland short.

04-09-2008, 12:43 AM	#21
Russ I believe in your victory Rep Power: 6 Rep Points: 863	Yes, Rick was in his 30s when he made this.

04-09-2008, 12:53 AM	#22
Yxklyx Editor Rep Power: 3 Rep Points: 177	Wait, when was LSD invented? __________________ Last Excellent Film Seen For The Very First Time: Captains Courageous (1937, Victor Fleming) My Movie Page

04-09-2008, 01:43 AM	#23
Philosophe_rouge Editor Rep Power: 5 Rep Points: 743	One of my weakest years of the 30s. Need to see more 1. Le Quai Des Brumes 2. Holiday 3. Angels with dirty faces 4. The Adventures of Robin Hood 5. The Lady Vanishes __________________ House of Mirth and Movies: Top 10s (in progress)

04-09-2008, 02:38 AM	#24
Eleven The Artist as Monster Rep Power: 3 Rep Points: 161	1. La Bete Humaine 2. Holiday 3. Bringing Up Baby 4. Angels with Dirty Faces 5. Jezebel HMs: Porky in Wackyland, Robin Hood, Lady Vanishes. I've got Alexander Nevsky on hand, might watch it before this is over. EDIT: Holiday was pretty awesome. Fuck you, rich people. __________________ Playtime Magazine articles Film at 11 Top 11s Last edited by Eleven : 04-10-2008 at 03:22 AM.

04-09-2008, 02:54 AM	#25
Isaac Social Retard Rep Power: 5 Rep Points: 677	1. Angels With Dirty Faces 2. Olympia 3. Port of Shadows 4. The Childhood of Maxim Gorky 5. Porky in Wackyland Also, a shout out to Mickey's Trailer (and thank God even the mighty Michael Eisner can't stop YouTube). __________________ Orlando (1992) *½ Demonlover (2002) ½ Inception (2010) ½ Everything Is Illuminated (2002, Jonathan Safran Foer) * July's People (1981, Nadine Gordimer) **½ Last edited by Isaac : 04-09-2008 at 02:58 AM.*

04-09-2008, 03:21 AM	#26
Melville My depressed stance... Rep Power: 8 Rep Points: 1332	1. The Lady Vanishes 2. La Bête humaine 3. Bringing Up Baby 4. Porky in Wackyland __________________ I am impatient of all misery in others that is not mad. Thou should'st go mad, blacksmith; say, why dost thou not go mad? How can'st thou endure without being mad? Do the heavens yet hate thee, that thou can'st not go mad? lists and reviews

04-09-2008, 03:35 AM	#29
Boner M blood Rep Power: 8 Rep Points: 1498	1. La bete humaine 2. The Lady Vanishes 3. Angels With Dirty Faces 4. Bringing Up Baby __________________ blog (latest: notes on a few recent films) / twitter / lastfm Sweetgrass (Barbash & Castaing-Taylor, 2009) *½ Primate (Wiseman, 1974) * The Unloved (Morton, 2009) Boy (Waititi, 2010) ½ Beeswax (Bujalski, 2009) *½ Hahaha (Hong, 2010) * Blank City (Danhier, 2009) * Cell 211 (Monzón, 2009) ½ The Messenger (Moverman, 2009) **½

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